Monday, November 30, 2020

T-Minus 211 Days: End of the Quarantine

 After visiting Florida, we were required to have a two week quarantine. During that time, my wife and I were restricted only to our bedroom and office. Anything we needed had to be delivered to us and brought to our room.  That is the price we paid for going to Florida to look for a house.

We have been spending our time attempting to narrow down our home builder options. We have collected a lot of data and we have been trying to compare apple to apples between the wide variety of options. We are narrowing our search to the North West of Greater Orlando - into Lake County. Specifically, Minneola around the Turnpike. There are several builders in this area and we are happy with the lots and land we have seen.

As a promising next step, we have explored churches in this area and I had a brief conversation with a member of one of the churches we liked,

When looking at builders, they entice customers by announcing "Houses in the low $x00K", or, they'll show a fantastic house with a $x00K base price. Don't be fooled. All the houses in a particular area (Like Davenport, Clermont, Minneola, etc) will all cost, pretty much, the same per square foot. Some have CDD fees, some base options have more features while others are stripped down. When you get the houses to be comparable, the prices are very close. A house may have a cheaper base price, but that gets made up in the structural changes, the design center, lot costs, and other areas. 

One house that stood out from the rest in terms of cost was Highland Homes Wayfair in Highland Meadows. It has a final cost per square feet of approx $106. Before we went to Florida, the Wayfair by Highland Homes was at the top of our list. That changed after visiting the Highland Meadows development.


I still like the Wayfair. But I don't like where it is located, I don't like the high CDD fees ($139/mo), the community area that is a mile away (you'd have to drive to it), and I don't like their down payment process. Highland Homes requires 20% up front non-refundable deposit. They hold that deposit (earning interest) for the 8 +/1 months it takes to build the house before the deposit is applied to your closing. 8 months is a long time, and if something were to change your situation (getting laid off or furloughed, for example), you could loose $65,000 or more. That fact is ridiculous considering houses in Florida sells in days. Highland Homes would pocket your deposit, then sell the house in days to recoup their entire investment plus profit. I sent an email to their regional sales manager that I felt this practice was wrong. Of course, Highland Homes doesn't need to listen to me - they are selling houses faster than they can make them. This problem doesn't appear to bother other people because people are lining up to buy a Highland Home and they have sold something like seven phases just at Highland Meadows. Highland Homes have sold so many houses that the government has had to restrict how many they can sell every week because the government can't keep up with the building requests.

We are waiting on just a little more data from some home builders and then I believe we'll be ready to make a decision. Once we have that, we want to ready through the HOA documents, any CDD documents, lot options, and poor over the house blue prints.

Friday, November 27, 2020

T-Minus 214 Days: Design Center

 One of the tasks of building a house is a trip to the design center. The design center is where you select the flooring, door knobs, lights, and every option for your house. I am told people typically spend $20,000 at the design center, but, it is easy to spend $100,000.

I watched this design center video and I can completely relate to the husband in this video. I think that'll be me.

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Thursday, November 26, 2020

T-Minus 215 Days: Sawgrass Drive Through

 Sawgrass Bay is a community between Kissimmee and Clermont that is rumored to be receiving direct access into Disney via the Western Way. Take a drive with us through Sawgrass and see the various developments.

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Wednesday, November 25, 2020

T-Minus 216 Days: HOA Versus CDD

When shopping for houses in Florida, there are three terms you need to know well: Home Owner's Association (HOA), Capital Development District (CDD), and Capital Contribution Cost (CCC). In this video I'll explain what these are, what you need to be aware of, and how they might effect your purchase decision.

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Tuesday, November 24, 2020

T-Minus 217 Days: Verde Ridge in Clermont

Join us for a drive through of the Verde Ridge in Clermont as we try to figure out where we want to move to.





Monday, November 23, 2020

T-Minus 218 Days: Analyzing the house choices

 We recently went house hunting in Florida. To pay for that, we are now in a two week quarantine. Luckily, we are able to work from home during this time, but, we are stuck living in just the bedroom and the office. When we aren't working, we are pouring through all the house material we brought home from Florida. We have easily spent 25 hours pouring through the data.

I developed a spreadsheet to keep track of our research and I'll share some of that with you along with some sample data.


The first part of the tracker has the builder name, model, the community where it is built, the city, and the base price. Next are six features that were important to us so we decided to track it: the square foot of the house, whether the first floor has a certain configuration we are interested in, what floor the master is on, the floor for the laundry, the floor for the office, and the lot size. Finally, an area for some notes.


As I continue to scroll to the right, I capture some of the financials: the monthly HOA feeds, CDD fees, Capital Contribution cost, the cost of the lot, the required down payment, the present discount being offered, and a budget for upgrades. There are two kinds of upgrades: structural (like adding a lanai, a bedroom, 3 car garage, or another bedroom) and the other is upgrades to things like cupboards, carpets, and door knobs. The structural items are, of course, very expensive. The point is important: the base prices are very misleading because they might strip down the base model to attract you to take a look, and then make up the difference with all the upgrades.


As I continue to scroll to the right, I get into some more financials. All the white columns are formulas, so, I don't have to enter anything into them: The total cost of the house, the downpayment (20%), property taxes/mo, insurance cost per month, closing costs, the amount of the house loan, what the house payment will be, the cost of the house appraisal for the bank, total of the pre-paid amounts, and the amount of cash needed at closing. Next are two more calculated columns that are colored green: The total amount of cash needed and the monthly payments. I also have a "cost per square foot" column (not shown). 

Some of these numbers are estimates (like the home insurance) but I believe everything is realistic.

We are collecting the data for 14 houses (of the two dozen we selected) to help us make a financial decision (per month and total cash), the things we care about, and location.  This will help us to make a data driven decision. The data driven decision won't be the final decision because we can override based on any reason we want, but, it should help to narrow down our decision.


Sunday, November 22, 2020

T-Minus 219 Days: Sawgrass to Western Way

 Western Way is the western entrance into Disney World. Someday, Sawgrass Bay is expected to connect to Western Way, giving all the communities within Sawgrass Bay quick access to the parks. Drive along as we go through Sawgrass Bay and find the area where it is likely to connect to Western Way.


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Saturday, November 21, 2020

T-Minus 220 days: Sand Key by Taylor Morrison

 The Sand Key model by Taylor Morrison is an incredible house. Unfortunately, it is a little too expensive for us. We enjoyed investigating this house because it became the gold standard from which we compared everything else. When the cost of another house started to get too expensive, we simply said "For this price we could have the Sand Key!" and that helped bring everything into proper perspective. 

Check out this walk through of the Sand Key and I think you'll understand why this house is one of our favorites.


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Friday, November 20, 2020

T-Minus 221 days: KB Homes Plan 3203

 We looked at many home builders during our trip to Florida. And now we have some difficult decisions to make. Elements we need to consider include: Cost, lot size, and location.


Cost = it is very tempting to go over our budget. But we want to stick to our budget so we have money for Disney, for furniture, and everything else.

Lot Size = Many home builders cram all the houses onto 50x110 lots. That is barely enough room to hold the house much less anything else! We want a pool in the back yard and an area for our dog, and 50x110 is just too small.

Location = The north west area of greater Orlando has many newer highway options including The Florida Turnpike, Rt. 429, and (even though it has stop lights) Rt. 27. Unfortunately, many of these new highways are toll roads and it is easy to rack up $100/mo in tolls. On the other hand, the south west area of greater Orlando is tied to I4 which is one of the busiest and perhaps dangerous highways I have ever been on. Everyone in the area knows to avoid I4. 

The KB Homes Plan 3203 offers a good cost, great lot size, and a nice location in Minnrola.


The following is a virtual walk through of KB Homes Plan 3203. KB names their plans after the square foot of the house, so, Plan 3203 has 3203 sqft. KB has several plan, such as the 3016, 3203, and 3530 - they are all nearly identical, except perhaps one plan has a little bump out, or, a slightly different option. Once you go through this virtual tour you will have a good sense of what the rest of the plans look like.

You will notice several half walls. The half walls can be removed, however, the pillars they attach to can not be removed because the pillars are load bearing. A 3 car garage is also available. 

Enjoy the virtual walk through brought to you by KB Homes!

https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=1DUiaUCP6Z7



Alternatively, here is a video made by Heart and Home Orlando

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Thursday, November 19, 2020

T-Minus 222 days: Amelia by Taylor Morrison

 Take a walk through the Amelia model house by Taylor Morrison. This is a good house only if we can convert the tandem garage into an air conditioned game room for the boys.

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Wednesday, November 18, 2020

T-Minus 233 Days: The Reserve at Lake Ridge

 Take a drive through the Reserve at Lake Ridge by KB Homes in Minneola, Florida. We like this location because it is in the north west of Greater Orlando, it is near the Turnpike, the lots are large, and it is on a hill side (which is rare in Florida) so there is the possibility of having a view.

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Here is an areal view of it too:

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Tuesday, November 17, 2020

T-Minus 224 Days: Drive Through Northridge Reserve

 Take a short look inside Northridge Reserve in Davenport Florida by Maronda Homes. This was NOT one of our favorite sites because it took a long time to drive here. Besides, this phase is nearly completely sold out. 


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Site Map of the November 2020 Phase:




Monday, November 16, 2020

T-Minus 225 Days: Carlisle by Maronda Homes

 Take a walk through the Carlisle. I liked the Carlisle more than my wife did, and the low base price in many of the building communities makes this a very attractive house. I also like that it has over 3000 square feet.

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Sunday, November 15, 2020

T-Minus 226 Days: Drive Through Grassy Lake

 Take a drive through Ryan Home's Overlook at Grassy Lake in Minneola, Florida. Grassy lake is about a quarter the size of Lake Minneola, but it is nevertheless, a significant lake. I liked how this community was built on a hill with the potential for views.

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Saturday, November 14, 2020

T-Minus 227: Lynn Haven by Ryan Homes

 Take a walking tour of the Lynn Haven by Ryan Homes. This house surprised me and I ended up liking it more than I thought I would. The base price a little high, but possible. It only has 2800sqft, but, I didn't notice that it was under 3000sqft as I walked through it - it felt very open. A downside for me is there is no dinning room. It is interesting to note that this house base price is $32,000 cheaper in Mt Dora compared to in Minneola. However, picking Mt Dora would mean you were comfortable with the extra 5 or 10 minute drive up the turnpike to get there. 

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Friday, November 13, 2020

T-Minus 228 Days: Drive Through Highland Meadows

 Highland Homes has a multi-phase development on the border between Davenport and Haines City in Florida. This is a drive through of the phase located on Ruby Lane.

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Highland Homes has my favorite house: The Wayfair. Unfortunately, Highland Meadows is way out in Haines City (south west of greater Orlando). Getting anywhere will likely mean driving I4 (which should be avoided due to the dangerous traffic conditions). The lot sizes are also fairly small. The community pool is a mile away, so, it is unlikely you'll just walk there. 

Thursday, November 12, 2020

T-Minus 229 Day: The Wayfair by Highland Homes

 This house is a major contender.. if only they built it in the west or north-west of Greater Orlando instead of just in the far south-west.

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Wednesday, November 11, 2020

T-Minus 230 Days: Traveling to Florida

 We are headed to Florida to search for houses!

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Tuesday, November 10, 2020

T-Minus 231 Days: 30 Home Builder Questions

 We are preparing for our November Florida trip where we will be talking with several new home builders. In preparation, we have assembled the following 30 home builder questions:



1.      What makes you different from all the other builders?

2.      Do you only build from existing floorplans, can I modify your floorplans, or can I provide my own set of plans?

3.      What features are standard in the homes you build? What are the upgrade options? What is included in the price?

  • Plumbing for appliances
  • HVAC
  • Electrical
  • Cabinets
  • Tile
  • Countertops
  • TRAX bug repellent

 

4.      When and how can I make changes or upgrades throughout the building process? Do all decisions need to be finalized before construction begins? What is the change control process? What is the charge for a change?

5.      What are the energy-saving features of the homes you build?

6.      Who will be overseeing the construction of my home? Who can I reach out to with questions as they arise, and how can I contact them?

7.      How do you ensure quality construction: What is your process for inspections throughout construction, final walk-through, and to address any matters that need to be corrected or finalized? Process for getting my home inspector to look at the house during construction?

8.      How long will it take to build my home?

9.      How and when will the final cost of my home be determined?

10.  Can I view a current project you’re working on? (Homes in the works are a great way to check for workmanship and material quality.)

11.  Can you provide me with references or testimonials from previous home buyers?

12.  What are the lot costs/lot premiums?

13.  Second floor framed with wood? If yes, 4” walls or 6” walls? If 6”, does that include more insulation?

14.  What is done to make the house be energy efficient?

15.  Resistance to storms: How is the roof attached/protected from hurricane winds

16.  What is your warranty? What is the process for warranty issues? How quickly will issues be fixed? What are we allowed to do that won’t break the warranty?

17.  Is Landscaping included? Is the landscaping part of the warranty?

18.  Process for getting an enclosed pool added?

19.  How is water run-off handled?

20.  What can to tell us about the design center?

21. Are you experiencing delays in materials or appliances due to COVID?

22.  What if the build is delayed extensively?

23.   What difference does it make when selecting which direction the house should face?

24.  Have there been soil quality tests? Tests for sink holes?

25.  Are there HOA and CDD feeds? What are the HOA rules?

26.  What are the steps in the process/what is a typical timeline?

27.  Schedule for when money is needed? When will I get the final quote? What are the assurances it won’t exceed my budget? Is there cost escalation protection?

28.  What are the estimated taxes on the completed house?

29.  Preferred borrower benefits?

30.  End of the year discounts?



Monday, November 9, 2020

T-Minus 232 Days: Planning the November Trip to Florida

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The properties we hope to see:

Builder/ExistingModel/AddressCommunityCity
hibiscusVenetiancherry lake oaksMinneola
hibiscusbelagiocherry lake oaksMinneola
hisbiscusveronacherry lake oaksMinneola
hisbiscusBordeauxcherry lake oaksMinneola
ExistingLake Douglas Dr 714?Groveland
KB HomePlan 3203Carriage HillApopka
KB HomePlan 3530Trivoli ReserveLoughman
KB HomePlan 3016Wilson EstatesMinneola
Taylor MorrisonSandkeyLakesideApopka
Taylor MorrisonBonaireLakesideApopka
Taylor MorrisonAmeliaLakesideApopka
Ryan HomesLynn HavenGrassy LakeMinneola
Highland HomesWayfairHighland MeadowsHaines City
Dr HortonElleSerenoLoughman
Maronda HomesBaymontNorth Ridge ReserveDavenport
Maronda HomesBayburyNorth Ridge ReserveDavenport
Maronda HomesCarlisleNorth Ridge ReserveDavenport
Dream FindersAvalon 2 with BonusAdamore ReserveLoughman
LennarPeabodyProvidenceLoughman
ExistingOakburn Ave 5184, 5221, or 5384SolTerraDavenort

Saturday, November 7, 2020

T-Minus 234 Days: Florida Floring

 Every place we have rented has had tile floors for all the common areas, and rugs for the bedrooms. I don't like rugs in Florida because it hides all the bugs and I assumed tile was the standard. However, as I have looked through houses, I have seen many people using a wood look vinyl. 

I asked one of the Florida Move Groups which flooring was better and I want to share the results.

You might notice that I didn't mention wood laminate as an option to consider. I am not a flooring expert, but, I'll tell you what my uninformed option is about wood and wood laminate flooring. I believe the humidity in Florida would cause it to buckle. Also, Florida has a horrible problem with termites, so, I can't imagine what would happen if you put wood on the floor of your house. Therefore, I won't even consider wood flooring.

I am also not mentioning cement floors. One option is to not put anything on your cement pad except a glossy epoxy coating. I understand the benefits but I think that look is just for the rare few.

TILE VOTES:28

VINYL Votes: 9

Tile Wins! Here are some of the comments and recommendations.



TILE

  • Tile can get sandy.
  • Just replaced manufactured hardwood with tile and I love it!
  • Tile is way too cold and you have to keep the grout clean. Too much work!
  • Tile will be colder (maybe not an issue in Florida) and possibly more difficult to replace if damaged.. but it should be more resistant to scratches and scuffs. Will also have a firmer and more solider/higher quality feel
  • Tile is cooler in the summer, and easier to take care of.
  • For Floirda weather, Tile is the best. Tile for bathrooms for sure
  • Had hardwood floors in the first Floirda home, honestly I was always worried about them scratching from sand. Always worried about them scratching from sand. Always worried about the humidity levels with them. With this house, new build, we picked a neutral wood look tile, wide plank. Love it. Nothing scratches, no problems with water or humidity, looks gorgeous, super easy to care for and cool under foot which is so appreciated here. 
  • Tile is definitely better than vinyl. Longer life. 
  • If you want something nice looking without worrying about maintenance then go with tile
  • Tile hurts my feet and back so bad
  • Porcelain tile, have a sealer put over the group, and buy a roomba with the floor washer + vacuum.
  • Tile is substantially tougher than vinyl

VINYL

  • In a way it is like laminate wood flooring but at the same time it is waterproof, looks like wood, and no issues with scratches
  • I love mine. It has a ceramic core, no wood products in it
  • We are laying luxury vinyl plank in our first floor condo. Love it so far. 
  • Vinyl (assuming LVP or LVT) will be softer, so more comfortable to walk on and less likely to break stuff (dishes or the bones of hyperactive children)
  • I installed LVP in my kitchen a couple years ago, and even though it has "superior scratch resistance", it still gets scratched... so I will likely go with something more durable/hard surface floor in the next house.
  • Laminate is much cleaner! Grout holds all kinds of dirt.
  • I have a house with both and I definitely prefer the vinyl. It's easier to keep clean, it's warmer and it just looks better!
  • I think about what's easier for ME to clean and let me tell you that the vinyl has been easier than all. No cracks, no grouts to clean, no worries about scratching the floors. 
  • So loved my vinyl floors, now I have ceramic tile, not liking it so much!
  • Laminate and LVP scratch very easily, the planks can separate or buckle, and it is prone to mold if it gets water or moisture under it